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	<title>Comments on: CEP and the alphabet soup (Part 2): BI</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Vincent</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2007/05/16/cep-and-the-alphabet-soup-part-2-bi/comment-page-1/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter: would be glad to. Your linked discussion "Will the Movement to BI in the Cloud be Hindered by Security and Privacy Concerns?" is possibly more relevant to the TIBCO Silver blog, and from a CEP perspective we have not yet seen much movement to running CEP processes in the cloud. No reason why you couldn't run TIBCO BE, for example, in or against the cloud, but people haven't yet, AFAIK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter: would be glad to. Your linked discussion &#8220;Will the Movement to BI in the Cloud be Hindered by Security and Privacy Concerns?&#8221; is possibly more relevant to the TIBCO Silver blog, and from a CEP perspective we have not yet seen much movement to running CEP processes in the cloud. No reason why you couldn&#8217;t run TIBCO BE, for example, in or against the cloud, but people haven&#8217;t yet, AFAIK.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Schooff</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2007/05/16/cep-and-the-alphabet-soup-part-2-bi/comment-page-1/#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Schooff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was just doing a little research for a CEP/BI question on our Forum, and would love to have someone from Tibco join.  An example of it is here: http://www.ebizq.net/blogs/ebizq_forum/2009/06/will-the-movement-to-bi-in-the-cloud-be-hindered-by-security-and-privacy-concerns.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was just doing a little research for a CEP/BI question on our Forum, and would love to have someone from Tibco join.  An example of it is here: <a href="http://www.ebizq.net/blogs/ebizq_forum/2009/06/will-the-movement-to-bi-in-the-cloud-be-hindered-by-security-and-privacy-concerns.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebizq.net/blogs/ebizq_forum/2009/06/will-the-movement-to-bi-in-the-cloud-be-hindered-by-security-and-privacy-concerns.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Complex Event Processing (CEP) Blog &#187; CEP as sauce for alphabet soup (Part 10): EC2 and Cloud Computing</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2007/05/16/cep-and-the-alphabet-soup-part-2-bi/comment-page-1/#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>Complex Event Processing (CEP) Blog &#187; CEP as sauce for alphabet soup (Part 10): EC2 and Cloud Computing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] alphabet soups have compared CEP to (2) BI, (3) BAM, (4) BPM, (5) BPEL, (6) SOA, (7) SQL, (8) MDM, (9) ETL. Future TLAs are TBA.    Filed in: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] alphabet soups have compared CEP to (2) BI, (3) BAM, (4) BPM, (5) BPEL, (6) SOA, (7) SQL, (8) MDM, (9) ETL. Future TLAs are TBA.    Filed in: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Complex Event Processing (CEP) Blog &#187; Business Rules Forum 2008: Nearly CEP</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2007/05/16/cep-and-the-alphabet-soup-part-2-bi/comment-page-1/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>Complex Event Processing (CEP) Blog &#187; Business Rules Forum 2008: Nearly CEP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] They are looking at / planning to do real-time analytics in terms of updating rules from analysis of data on the datagrid. Which makes perfect sense. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] They are looking at / planning to do real-time analytics in terms of updating rules from analysis of data on the datagrid. Which makes perfect sense. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Complex Event Processing (CEP) Blog &#187; Data Warehouse evolving towards CEP?</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2007/05/16/cep-and-the-alphabet-soup-part-2-bi/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Complex Event Processing (CEP) Blog &#187; Data Warehouse evolving towards CEP?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yet here is a highly respected DW company, who sells mostly in the DW space, advocating an event-driven approach to analysing your data. Fascinating! Furthermore, they presented &#8220;event-driven&#8221; use cases (albeit old ones) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yet here is a highly respected DW company, who sells mostly in the DW space, advocating an event-driven approach to analysing your data. Fascinating! Furthermore, they presented &#8220;event-driven&#8221; use cases (albeit old ones) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Event Processing and Decision Management&#8230; &#187; TIBCOâ€™s Complex Event Processing Blog</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2007/05/16/cep-and-the-alphabet-soup-part-2-bi/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Event Processing and Decision Management&#8230; &#187; TIBCOâ€™s Complex Event Processing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of course, the underlying message is the same: define and update business logic without obfuscating it inside &#8220;code&#8221;. Use smart techniques for updating rules (including analytics, either traditional data-warehouse based, eyeball, or real-time inside-the-CEP statistics driving rule parameters) [*3]. Live long(er) and prosper&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Of course, the underlying message is the same: define and update business logic without obfuscating it inside &#8220;code&#8221;. Use smart techniques for updating rules (including analytics, either traditional data-warehouse based, eyeball, or real-time inside-the-CEP statistics driving rule parameters) [*3]. Live long(er) and prosper&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Operational BI versus the present-day woes of the Big Banks? &#187; TIBCOâ€™s Complex Event Processing Blog</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2007/05/16/cep-and-the-alphabet-soup-part-2-bi/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Operational BI versus the present-day woes of the Big Banks? &#187; TIBCOâ€™s Complex Event Processing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This blog entry - Mortage Mess: Where Was the Business Intelligence? by Joe McKendrick - made an interesting read. Joe implies that all the BI reports in the world are useless if no-one reads them or takes action on them. Thence the need for BI systems that respond to events and event trends and take action on those trends - akin to what has been termed &#8220;Operational BI&#8221;, and solved neatly in the real world by CEP, as well as being closely related to BAM. Clearly, deciding on the rules - what trends to look for and what action to take in advance - is a difficult thing to do. But then, these decision-making skills are why executives in large corporations get paid lots of $ by their shareholders. Presumably.    Filed in: Complex Event Processing (CEP), BI, BAM, Rules  bookmark with del.icio.us &#160;  digg this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This blog entry - Mortage Mess: Where Was the Business Intelligence? by Joe McKendrick - made an interesting read. Joe implies that all the BI reports in the world are useless if no-one reads them or takes action on them. Thence the need for BI systems that respond to events and event trends and take action on those trends - akin to what has been termed &#8220;Operational BI&#8221;, and solved neatly in the real world by CEP, as well as being closely related to BAM. Clearly, deciding on the rules - what trends to look for and what action to take in advance - is a difficult thing to do. But then, these decision-making skills are why executives in large corporations get paid lots of $ by their shareholders. Presumably.    Filed in: Complex Event Processing (CEP), BI, BAM, Rules  bookmark with del.icio.us &nbsp;  digg this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CEP and the alphabet soup (Part 3): BAM ! &#187; TIBCOâ€™s Complex Event Processing Blog</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2007/05/16/cep-and-the-alphabet-soup-part-2-bi/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>CEP and the alphabet soup (Part 3): BAM ! &#187; TIBCOâ€™s Complex Event Processing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 15:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You get the idea. If we review the reference architecture in the WHAT is CEP series, you can liken it to the Situation Refinement or Awareness step.  From this we can deduce that BAM involves reviewing data derived from business processes, a bit like the operational BI mentioned in the BI soupspoonful below.  In discussing BAM and CEP, one should be aware that David Luckham, who may be familiar to some as one of the &#8220;godfathers&#8221; of CEP, has penned this article on how most BAM today is really simple event processing, and what BAM users need is detailed in this article - no surprises here, the solution is CEP! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You get the idea. If we review the reference architecture in the WHAT is CEP series, you can liken it to the Situation Refinement or Awareness step.  From this we can deduce that BAM involves reviewing data derived from business processes, a bit like the operational BI mentioned in the BI soupspoonful below.  In discussing BAM and CEP, one should be aware that David Luckham, who may be familiar to some as one of the &#8220;godfathers&#8221; of CEP, has penned this article on how most BAM today is really simple event processing, and what BAM users need is detailed in this article - no surprises here, the solution is CEP! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What is Complex Event Processing? (Part 7) &#171; The Complex Event Processing Blog</title>
		<link>http://tibcoblogs.com/cep/2007/05/16/cep-and-the-alphabet-soup-part-2-bi/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>What is Complex Event Processing? (Part 7) &#171; The Complex Event Processing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 15:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This overarching event-correlation-assessment-decision-action concept in CEP is also discussed very nicely by John Bates and Giles Nelson, Progress Apama, in their on-demand webinar, Using CEP and BAM for Fraud &amp; Compliance Monitoring. John and Giles do an excellent job covering a number of fraud detection, risk and compliance use cases that illustrate how raw event are correlated in real-time to effect actionable processes. In addition, Paul Vincent, TIBCO Software, does an nice job illustrating another application of direct feedback based on real-time analytics in his blog post, CEP and the alphabet soup (Part 2): BI. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This overarching event-correlation-assessment-decision-action concept in CEP is also discussed very nicely by John Bates and Giles Nelson, Progress Apama, in their on-demand webinar, Using CEP and BAM for Fraud &amp; Compliance Monitoring. John and Giles do an excellent job covering a number of fraud detection, risk and compliance use cases that illustrate how raw event are correlated in real-time to effect actionable processes. In addition, Paul Vincent, TIBCO Software, does an nice job illustrating another application of direct feedback based on real-time analytics in his blog post, CEP and the alphabet soup (Part 2): BI. [...]</p>
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