RuleML09: Rules Matter in CEP
Posted by Paul Vincent
RuleML09 was co-located (and partially consecutively with) BRForum09 this year, and TIBCO presented a keynote on day 2 on why rules matter in CEP . RuleML is more of an academic conference covering things like rule standards (such as W3C RIF and OMG SBVR), and had an event processing track too.
I hadn’t twigged before now that a title like “Rules Matter in CEP” could be misinterpreted in a “rule markup language conference” as “CEP uses a new way of representing rule fragments we call Rule Matter” - but luckily no-one seemed to have been misled… although I must admit it might be a neat name for a rule format :).
It was good to see all the “great and good” in current rules and standards research at this event, although there was not much overlap with the “great and good” who had attended ORF the previous week. It seems strange having 3 rules conferences in 2 weeks, although I do wonder if the other vendors in EPTS will be cursing me for possibly raising CEP as a future mainstream topic at these events.
Some of the Q&A was interesting. For example, why should “rule inferencing” be important (i.e. algorithmic rule chaining over using events to cause other rules to fire). My rule engine industry colleagues from IBM Ilog wanted to know why their rules engine wasn’t represented on the list of CEP vendors (answers on a postcard, please). And why weren’t other algorithms like Bayesian networks used more in CEP (good question…).
Tags: RuleML09
Complex Event Processing (CEP), Meetings and events, Rules | 06 November 2009 |
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By Rainer von Ammon, November 8, 2009 @ 01:08
Hi Paul,
“And why weren’t other algorithms like Bayesian networks used more in CEP (good question…).”
–> Actually we do use other AI-algorithms, e.g. in the case of the reference model for non-deterministic approaches like Smart respectively edBPM-based FraudManagement. You showed it in your blog-entry about the 5th EPTS-symposium in Trento. We have some ongoing PhD-theses in the domains of retail, banking, insurance and nowadays gaming where fraud seems to be a big problem in the meantime. We will discuss such approaches in our next edBPM expert meeting in Dec 7-8 in Regensburg, you can see it from the draft-agenda, second day.
The theses use CEP and its dífferent EPL-approaches (SQL-like, rule-based, special “prorietary” langauges etc.) for the deterministic filtering of known fraudulent event patterns and Bayesian belief networks, neural networks etc. in an upper tier for the recognition of unkown, suspicious event patterns.
Best, Rainer
By Peter Schooff, November 9, 2009 @ 09:56
Hey Paul,
Saw your comment on the ebizQ Forum, and would love to have you join. Please email me if interested.
Best,
Peter